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		<title>Roboinvest Boots Up [UPDATED]</title>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:46:57 -0400</pubDate>
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			<dc:creator>Adrianne Jeffries</dc:creator>
				
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_28064" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 286px"><img class="size-full wp-image-28064" style="margin-top: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px;" title="traders" src="http://nyobetabeat.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/traders.jpg" alt="" width="276" height="184" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Will these guys be replaced by citizen traders?</p></div></p>
<p>Want to trade stocks? Have no clue how? <a href="http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/1/prweb9149474.htm">Roboinvest is the latest startup to launch</a> out of New York for casual, insecure or curious traders. Like Union Square Ventures company Covester, <a href="http://Roboinvest.com">Roboinvest</a> is a social investing platform built on top of ETRADE that lets users "look over the shoulder of top investors" and follow their moves, sort of like AngelList does for startups and Currensee does for foreign exchange trading. The startup had a soft launch on Friday and opened officially yesterday.<!--more--></p>
<p>"I’ve completed a seed round of funding from local investors as well as friends and family, and I’m working on completing an all cash angel round of funding which will allow us to build out the product and gain enough users to prove the business, or pivot if necessary," Aussie-in-New-York founder Michael Giles wrote in a commemorative <a href="http://www.startupsmart.com.au/aussie-in-the-big-apple/getting-my-start-up-to-official-launch/201201315234.html">blog post</a>.</p>
<p>Roboinvest's timing is noteworthy. In the wake of a recession caused in part by the professional finance industry, technology seems to be empowering the small investor. Just yesterday, the launch of <a href="http://www.betabeat.com/2012/01/30/these-guys-built-a-crowd-investing-platform-even-though-its-not-legal-yet/">WeFunder reminded us</a> that the Democratizing Access to Capital Act, which would allow non-accredited investors to put money into startups, passed the House of Representatives in a bipartisan landslide and is now being debated in the Senate. Power to the people! Soon we will all be making terrible funding decisions just like the big banks and venture capitalists can.</p>
<p>UPDATE: Mr. Giles writes in to clarify the statement in the press release: "Just to clarify out of interest - we're 'first-of-its-kind' in that no one else is publishing trading information how we are - we have unique integration with E*TRADE that no one else has, and we can do it faster than anyone else can.  We certainly not the first, nor did we invent social investing, I'd give that credit to Covestor. Covestor is also built on Interactive Brokers who has 170,000 trading customers, E*TRADE has 2.8 million."</p>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_28064" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 286px"><img class="size-full wp-image-28064" style="margin-top: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px;" title="traders" src="http://nyobetabeat.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/traders.jpg" alt="" width="276" height="184" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Will these guys be replaced by citizen traders?</p></div></p>
<p>Want to trade stocks? Have no clue how? <a href="http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/1/prweb9149474.htm">Roboinvest is the latest startup to launch</a> out of New York for casual, insecure or curious traders. Like Union Square Ventures company Covester, <a href="http://Roboinvest.com">Roboinvest</a> is a social investing platform built on top of ETRADE that lets users "look over the shoulder of top investors" and follow their moves, sort of like AngelList does for startups and Currensee does for foreign exchange trading. The startup had a soft launch on Friday and opened officially yesterday.<!--more--></p>
<p>"I’ve completed a seed round of funding from local investors as well as friends and family, and I’m working on completing an all cash angel round of funding which will allow us to build out the product and gain enough users to prove the business, or pivot if necessary," Aussie-in-New-York founder Michael Giles wrote in a commemorative <a href="http://www.startupsmart.com.au/aussie-in-the-big-apple/getting-my-start-up-to-official-launch/201201315234.html">blog post</a>.</p>
<p>Roboinvest's timing is noteworthy. In the wake of a recession caused in part by the professional finance industry, technology seems to be empowering the small investor. Just yesterday, the launch of <a href="http://www.betabeat.com/2012/01/30/these-guys-built-a-crowd-investing-platform-even-though-its-not-legal-yet/">WeFunder reminded us</a> that the Democratizing Access to Capital Act, which would allow non-accredited investors to put money into startups, passed the House of Representatives in a bipartisan landslide and is now being debated in the Senate. Power to the people! Soon we will all be making terrible funding decisions just like the big banks and venture capitalists can.</p>
<p>UPDATE: Mr. Giles writes in to clarify the statement in the press release: "Just to clarify out of interest - we're 'first-of-its-kind' in that no one else is publishing trading information how we are - we have unique integration with E*TRADE that no one else has, and we can do it faster than anyone else can.  We certainly not the first, nor did we invent social investing, I'd give that credit to Covestor. Covestor is also built on Interactive Brokers who has 170,000 trading customers, E*TRADE has 2.8 million."</p>
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		<title>These Guys Built a Crowd Investing Platform Even Though It&#8217;s Not Legal Yet</title>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:00:51 -0400</pubDate>
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			<dc:creator>Adrianne Jeffries</dc:creator>
				
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_23750" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 610px"><img class="size-full wp-image-23750" style="margin-top: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px;" title="kickstarter girl walk crowd" src="http://nyobetabeat.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/kickstarter-girl-walk-crowd-e1328015568109.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="600" /><p class="wp-caption-text">A crowded Kickstarter party. See what we did there?</p></div></p>
<p>It is illegal to invest $100 in a startup in exchange for equity or options unless you're an accredited investor.</p>
<p>Still, a website for crowd investing launched today: <a href="http://WeFunder.com">WeFunder.com</a>. Even though the law that would make it legal is still being debated in the Senate, TechStars alumni and <a href="http://www.betabeat.com/2011/05/02/all-right-who-wants-to-sponsor-this-techstars-alums-launch-hackathon-in-the-tropics/">Startup Workaway co-founders Nicholas Tommarello and Nick Plante</a> went ahead and built WeFunder and wrote a business plan anyway.</p>
<p>"We've built out the crowd-investing platform in advance of the law passing, and have put in a lot of thought into how to best protect small investors," Mr. Tommarello wrote in an email.</p>
<p>A disclaimer on the site reads:</p>
<blockquote><p>Wefunder is a crowd-investing platform for startups. Until the current law is changed (hopefully soon!), our invite-only beta is only open to accredited investors.</p>
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<p>"We're only going to choose one startup a week to feature; artificial scarcity will drive up quality," Mr. Tommarello said. "And we will only choose startups with at least one accredited investor - the idea is that angels perform due diligence and professional mentorship, the crowd can throw in up to $1 million afterwards. That delays the date an A round is needed, enhancing founder control."</p>
<p>Clever. But even though the House of Representatives version of the Democratizing Access to Capital Act (S.1791) passed in a bipartisan landslide, 407-18, it's unsure whether the Senate will give the OK. The bill was introduced by Tea Partier Scott Brown of Massachussetts. "When we talked to Scott Brown's team, they were optimistic their bill would pass," Mr. Tommarello said. "However, we're told that there is some skepticism that small investors actually want to do this, and that the dollar amounts invested would be high enough to actually help the economy. Which is bullshit, since nearly $100 million was spent on Kickstarter in the last year... for mostly art projects.</p>
<p>"It's pretty absurd that politicians are happy to use crowd-funding to finance their campaigns, but don't realize the same dynamic works for job-creation," he said.</p>
<p>Laws prohibiting non-accredited investors from purchasing stock in startups were put on the books to protect the dull and the gullible -- like little old ladies in New York and Baltimore who were swindled into buying worthless plots of land a smarmy door-to-door salesman said might have oil. Considering millions of people were recently sold mortgages they couldn't afford, the need for consumer protection seems real.</p>
<p>But beyond the consumer protection argument and beyond the economic argument, opponents of crowd investing say it's <a href="http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/advisor/why-crowdfunding-bad-business-opinion-130000214.html">bad for startups</a>. Startups don't need a vast pool of undereducated micro-investors, the argument goes, they need savvy investors who know the market.</p>
<p>Considering how many startups raise their first rounds from friends and family, this argument may be moot. But WeFunder's requirement that a startup have one accredited investor before signing up for the platform guarantees a modicum of due diligence.</p>
<p>You can't invest in startups on WeFunder yet, but you can sign a petition to send to the Senate.</p>
<p>But before you do, realize that if the law passes, at least one consequence seems certain: <em>there will be more startups</em>. Do you really want that?</p>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_23750" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 610px"><img class="size-full wp-image-23750" style="margin-top: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px;" title="kickstarter girl walk crowd" src="http://nyobetabeat.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/kickstarter-girl-walk-crowd-e1328015568109.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="600" /><p class="wp-caption-text">A crowded Kickstarter party. See what we did there?</p></div></p>
<p>It is illegal to invest $100 in a startup in exchange for equity or options unless you're an accredited investor.</p>
<p>Still, a website for crowd investing launched today: <a href="http://WeFunder.com">WeFunder.com</a>. Even though the law that would make it legal is still being debated in the Senate, TechStars alumni and <a href="http://www.betabeat.com/2011/05/02/all-right-who-wants-to-sponsor-this-techstars-alums-launch-hackathon-in-the-tropics/">Startup Workaway co-founders Nicholas Tommarello and Nick Plante</a> went ahead and built WeFunder and wrote a business plan anyway.</p>
<p>"We've built out the crowd-investing platform in advance of the law passing, and have put in a lot of thought into how to best protect small investors," Mr. Tommarello wrote in an email.</p>
<p>A disclaimer on the site reads:</p>
<blockquote><p>Wefunder is a crowd-investing platform for startups. Until the current law is changed (hopefully soon!), our invite-only beta is only open to accredited investors.</p>
<p><!--more--></p></blockquote>
<p>"We're only going to choose one startup a week to feature; artificial scarcity will drive up quality," Mr. Tommarello said. "And we will only choose startups with at least one accredited investor - the idea is that angels perform due diligence and professional mentorship, the crowd can throw in up to $1 million afterwards. That delays the date an A round is needed, enhancing founder control."</p>
<p>Clever. But even though the House of Representatives version of the Democratizing Access to Capital Act (S.1791) passed in a bipartisan landslide, 407-18, it's unsure whether the Senate will give the OK. The bill was introduced by Tea Partier Scott Brown of Massachussetts. "When we talked to Scott Brown's team, they were optimistic their bill would pass," Mr. Tommarello said. "However, we're told that there is some skepticism that small investors actually want to do this, and that the dollar amounts invested would be high enough to actually help the economy. Which is bullshit, since nearly $100 million was spent on Kickstarter in the last year... for mostly art projects.</p>
<p>"It's pretty absurd that politicians are happy to use crowd-funding to finance their campaigns, but don't realize the same dynamic works for job-creation," he said.</p>
<p>Laws prohibiting non-accredited investors from purchasing stock in startups were put on the books to protect the dull and the gullible -- like little old ladies in New York and Baltimore who were swindled into buying worthless plots of land a smarmy door-to-door salesman said might have oil. Considering millions of people were recently sold mortgages they couldn't afford, the need for consumer protection seems real.</p>
<p>But beyond the consumer protection argument and beyond the economic argument, opponents of crowd investing say it's <a href="http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/advisor/why-crowdfunding-bad-business-opinion-130000214.html">bad for startups</a>. Startups don't need a vast pool of undereducated micro-investors, the argument goes, they need savvy investors who know the market.</p>
<p>Considering how many startups raise their first rounds from friends and family, this argument may be moot. But WeFunder's requirement that a startup have one accredited investor before signing up for the platform guarantees a modicum of due diligence.</p>
<p>You can't invest in startups on WeFunder yet, but you can sign a petition to send to the Senate.</p>
<p>But before you do, realize that if the law passes, at least one consequence seems certain: <em>there will be more startups</em>. Do you really want that?</p>
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