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		<title>The Trolls Come Out For 10Gen</title>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:42:31 -0400</pubDate>
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			<dc:creator>Ben Popper</dc:creator>
				
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<p>Don't play with matches in a dry wooded area. Don't put a detailed rant on Hacker News unless you're prepared to start a fire.</p>
<p>An <a href="http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FD3xe6Jt">anonymous pastebin post from this weekend</a> slammed the MongoDB database architecture and in particular the support from 10Gen, the AlleyCorp company with deep ties to MongoDB. It quickly raced to the top of Hacker News and from there around the developer community.</p>
<p>The screed got a ton of attention, to the point where <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3202959">10Gen CTO Eliot Horowitz jumped into the comments</a> on Hacker News and addressed the complaints point by point. Mr. Horowitz conceded that a lot of the issues where known complaints about MongoDB, but also highlighted the fact that many details from the post didn't match up to any of what 10Gen offered or any of their customer records.</p>
<p>In fact, deep in the comments on the Hacker News post, the<a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3205749"> "originator" of the pastebin post appeared to claim</a> he was just a troll testing the masses to see who were sheep.<!--more--> "My intention was to troll as many hipsters as possible and make them a little more aware of how easy to manipulate they are, without even providing the slightest bit of evidence. It cracks me up that there are startups out there right now, making foolish architecture decisions based on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt">FUD</a> i'm spreading. Start thinking for yourself!"</p>
<p>This begat a new cycle of finger pointing and skepticism, as the comment board rushed to determine if the troll taking responsibility truly was the original offender or simply an anon seeking attention. Meanwhile folks like Harry Heymann from foursquare and Wedge Martin from badgeville posted about their personal experiences with 10Gen.</p>
<p>"I run engineering for foursquare," wrote Mr. Heymann. "About a year and a half ago my colleagues and I and made the decision to migrate to MongoDB for our primary data store. Currently we have dozens of MongoDB instances across several different data clusters storing over a TB of data and handling 10s of thousands of requests per second (mostly reads but the write load is reasonably high as well). Have we run into problems with MongoDB along the way? Yes, of course we have. It is a new technology and problems happen. Have they been problematic enough to seriously threaten our data? No they have not. MongoDB is a complicated beast (as are most datastores). It makes tradeoffs that you need to understand when thinking about using it. It's not necessarily for everyone. But it most certainly can be used by serious companies building serious products. Foursquare is proof of that."</p>
<p>Eventually a post appeared on <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/cloud/2011/11/hacker-news-and-the-damage-don.php">Read Write Web </a>wondering what the damage to 10Gen and MongoDB's reputation might be. This seems a bit much, given the poster was only pointing to known issues and had several inconsistencies in their story. The powerful reaction does point to a very real debate about MongoDB and where the future of database architecture is headed. But the community knows a troll when they see one, and rallied to push 10Gen CTO's Eliot Horowitz's response to the top the Hacker News thread.</p>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_21497" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 360px"><img class="size-full wp-image-21497" title="PatentTrolls_final_David_Saracino" src="http://nyobetabeat.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/patenttrolls_final_david_saracino.jpg" alt="" width="350" height="382" /><p class="wp-caption-text">image from David_Saracino</p></div></p>
<p>Don't play with matches in a dry wooded area. Don't put a detailed rant on Hacker News unless you're prepared to start a fire.</p>
<p>An <a href="http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FD3xe6Jt">anonymous pastebin post from this weekend</a> slammed the MongoDB database architecture and in particular the support from 10Gen, the AlleyCorp company with deep ties to MongoDB. It quickly raced to the top of Hacker News and from there around the developer community.</p>
<p>The screed got a ton of attention, to the point where <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3202959">10Gen CTO Eliot Horowitz jumped into the comments</a> on Hacker News and addressed the complaints point by point. Mr. Horowitz conceded that a lot of the issues where known complaints about MongoDB, but also highlighted the fact that many details from the post didn't match up to any of what 10Gen offered or any of their customer records.</p>
<p>In fact, deep in the comments on the Hacker News post, the<a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3205749"> "originator" of the pastebin post appeared to claim</a> he was just a troll testing the masses to see who were sheep.<!--more--> "My intention was to troll as many hipsters as possible and make them a little more aware of how easy to manipulate they are, without even providing the slightest bit of evidence. It cracks me up that there are startups out there right now, making foolish architecture decisions based on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt">FUD</a> i'm spreading. Start thinking for yourself!"</p>
<p>This begat a new cycle of finger pointing and skepticism, as the comment board rushed to determine if the troll taking responsibility truly was the original offender or simply an anon seeking attention. Meanwhile folks like Harry Heymann from foursquare and Wedge Martin from badgeville posted about their personal experiences with 10Gen.</p>
<p>"I run engineering for foursquare," wrote Mr. Heymann. "About a year and a half ago my colleagues and I and made the decision to migrate to MongoDB for our primary data store. Currently we have dozens of MongoDB instances across several different data clusters storing over a TB of data and handling 10s of thousands of requests per second (mostly reads but the write load is reasonably high as well). Have we run into problems with MongoDB along the way? Yes, of course we have. It is a new technology and problems happen. Have they been problematic enough to seriously threaten our data? No they have not. MongoDB is a complicated beast (as are most datastores). It makes tradeoffs that you need to understand when thinking about using it. It's not necessarily for everyone. But it most certainly can be used by serious companies building serious products. Foursquare is proof of that."</p>
<p>Eventually a post appeared on <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/cloud/2011/11/hacker-news-and-the-damage-don.php">Read Write Web </a>wondering what the damage to 10Gen and MongoDB's reputation might be. This seems a bit much, given the poster was only pointing to known issues and had several inconsistencies in their story. The powerful reaction does point to a very real debate about MongoDB and where the future of database architecture is headed. But the community knows a troll when they see one, and rallied to push 10Gen CTO's Eliot Horowitz's response to the top the Hacker News thread.</p>
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		<title>Dwight Merriman&#8217;s 10Gen Raises $20 M. From Sequoia and Union Square</title>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:36:47 -0400</pubDate>
					<link>http://betabeat.com/2011/09/kevin-ryans-10gen-raises-20-m-from-sequoia-and-union-square/</link>
			<dc:creator>Ben Popper</dc:creator>
				
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_16849" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-16849 " title="dwight-merriman-10gen" src="http://nyobetabeat.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/dwight-merriman-10gen.jpg?w=300&h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Dwight Merriman via Business Insider</p></div></p>
<p>10Gen is not a startup you hear discussed often at cocktail parties, even the kind full of engineers. But Kevin Ryan has told Betabeat on more than one occassion that he believes 10Gen --which provide commercial support for MongoDB,  the increasingly popular open source NoSQL database-- is the AlleyCorp company with the most potential in the long term.</p>
<p><a href="http://gigaom.com/cloud/10gen-raises-20m-more-for-mongodb-in/">10Gen has just raised a $20 million series D</a> from Sequoia, FlyBridge and Union Square Ventures.<!--more--></p>
<p>The company is run by Dwight Merriman, who along with Kevin O'Connor, founded the ad-tech company that would become DoubleClick. Mr. Merriman is widely acknowledged by both Kevins as a technical genius, the kind of person who can handle a complex, rapidly evolving database play in the enterprise space.</p>
<p><a href="http://gigaom.com/cloud/10gen-raises-20m-more-for-mongodb-in/">According to GigaOm, 10Gen now has over 400 customers</a> and more than 100,000 downloads of its MongoDB package per month. While that doesn't sound huge by consumer standards, it's proof that MongoDB is more than just a fad. If growth continues apace, the NoSQL system could be a serious player in the massive multi-billion database industry. Clients already include big names like Disney and Viacom.</p>
<p>10Gen hopes to use the funding for international expansion and building out the capabilities of MongoDB.</p>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_16849" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-16849 " title="dwight-merriman-10gen" src="http://nyobetabeat.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/dwight-merriman-10gen.jpg?w=300&h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Dwight Merriman via Business Insider</p></div></p>
<p>10Gen is not a startup you hear discussed often at cocktail parties, even the kind full of engineers. But Kevin Ryan has told Betabeat on more than one occassion that he believes 10Gen --which provide commercial support for MongoDB,  the increasingly popular open source NoSQL database-- is the AlleyCorp company with the most potential in the long term.</p>
<p><a href="http://gigaom.com/cloud/10gen-raises-20m-more-for-mongodb-in/">10Gen has just raised a $20 million series D</a> from Sequoia, FlyBridge and Union Square Ventures.<!--more--></p>
<p>The company is run by Dwight Merriman, who along with Kevin O'Connor, founded the ad-tech company that would become DoubleClick. Mr. Merriman is widely acknowledged by both Kevins as a technical genius, the kind of person who can handle a complex, rapidly evolving database play in the enterprise space.</p>
<p><a href="http://gigaom.com/cloud/10gen-raises-20m-more-for-mongodb-in/">According to GigaOm, 10Gen now has over 400 customers</a> and more than 100,000 downloads of its MongoDB package per month. While that doesn't sound huge by consumer standards, it's proof that MongoDB is more than just a fad. If growth continues apace, the NoSQL system could be a serious player in the massive multi-billion database industry. Clients already include big names like Disney and Viacom.</p>
<p>10Gen hopes to use the funding for international expansion and building out the capabilities of MongoDB.</p>
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