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		<title>Are Square and Dwolla Teaming Up to Disrupt Visa and Mastercard?</title>

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			<dc:creator>Jessica Roy</dc:creator>
				
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_64309" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://static.lanyrd.net/cropped-profile-photos/bbbf36c5c983c37dc98eb090911301357881e746-s300.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-64309" title="bbbf36c5c983c37dc98eb090911301357881e746-s300" src="http://nyobetabeat.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/bbbf36c5c983c37dc98eb090911301357881e746-s300.jpeg" alt="" width="300" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Ben Milne, CEO of Dwolla. (Photo: Lanyrd)</p></div></p>
<p>Visa and Mastercard have long dominated the retail payment business (after all, when was the last time you saw someone flaunting a Discover card?). But now, Dwolla*--which recently <a href="http://betabeat.com/2012/04/dwolla-alex-taub-aviary-new-york-office-michael-schonfeld-04162012/">launched</a> an NYC office--and the San Francisco-based Square may be collaborating to knock the two legacy institutions off their pedestal.</p>
<p>Quartz <a href="http://qz.com/7848/heres-the-evidence-that-dwolla-square-the-two-hottest-us-startups-in-payments-are-going-to-get-together-to-defeat-visa-mastercard/">reports</a> that there may be a deal in the works between the two--one that would benefit both merchants and customers. Square provides a way for businesses to process credit card payments without clunky POS systems; Dwolla allows users to instantaneously transfer money with a flat fee of $.25. By teaming up, the two could really give the dominant credit card processing companies a run for their money.</p>
<p><!--more--><a href="http://qz.com/7848/heres-the-evidence-that-dwolla-square-the-two-hottest-us-startups-in-payments-are-going-to-get-together-to-defeat-visa-mastercard/">Writes</a> Quartz:</p>
<blockquote><p>Square hasn’t replaced credit cards; it’s merely provided a new way to swipe them.<strong> </strong>That means that merchants are still paying Square 2.75% per transaction, a fee that can’t be tamped down without replacing credit cards altogether....Dwolla charges nothing for transfers less than $10, and a flat fee of $0.25 for everything over that amount. On a $100 purchase, a merchant would save $2.50. For merchants like grocers, who are making only between 1 and 3 percent profit on every sale, that would on average double their margins on a sale.</p>
<p>So: pair an easier way to pay (good for customers) with a cheaper way to transfer money (good for merchants) and you have a winning combination.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dwolla has <a href="https://getsatisfaction.com/dwolla/topics/can_dwolla_integrate_with_square_pos">hinted</a> at this kind of collab before, saying that they are "agnostic" when it comes to how users pay for goods. Square, meanwhile, recently nabbed a massively lucrative <a href="http://betabeat.com/2012/09/starbucks-pitches-in-on-squares-200m-series-d/">partnership</a> with Starbucks. If Square could convince the coffee king to use Dwolla for its money transfers--touting that miraculously low transfer fee--that could mean big business for Dwolla.</p>
<p>"Dwolla's a lot like another mastercard, another visa, another amex, in that it's a payment option," Jordan Lampe, a communications rep for Dwolla, told Betabeat by email. "Square has built an amazingly simple, beautiful way to accept payment options on the behalf of their merchants. Any proposition that provides a customer with real value is a worthy conversation for any company to engage in."</p>
<p>But, as Quartz notes, "Persuading shoppers will be the harder part." Visa and Mastercard are well-known brands that people have come to trust their money with. It will take a tremendous marketing push to convince customers to trust a little-known company with their cash, but it might just be worth it for everyone involved.</p>
<p><em><strong>*<a href="http://betabeat.com/disclosure/">Disclosure</a></strong></em></p>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_64309" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://static.lanyrd.net/cropped-profile-photos/bbbf36c5c983c37dc98eb090911301357881e746-s300.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-64309" title="bbbf36c5c983c37dc98eb090911301357881e746-s300" src="http://nyobetabeat.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/bbbf36c5c983c37dc98eb090911301357881e746-s300.jpeg" alt="" width="300" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Ben Milne, CEO of Dwolla. (Photo: Lanyrd)</p></div></p>
<p>Visa and Mastercard have long dominated the retail payment business (after all, when was the last time you saw someone flaunting a Discover card?). But now, Dwolla*--which recently <a href="http://betabeat.com/2012/04/dwolla-alex-taub-aviary-new-york-office-michael-schonfeld-04162012/">launched</a> an NYC office--and the San Francisco-based Square may be collaborating to knock the two legacy institutions off their pedestal.</p>
<p>Quartz <a href="http://qz.com/7848/heres-the-evidence-that-dwolla-square-the-two-hottest-us-startups-in-payments-are-going-to-get-together-to-defeat-visa-mastercard/">reports</a> that there may be a deal in the works between the two--one that would benefit both merchants and customers. Square provides a way for businesses to process credit card payments without clunky POS systems; Dwolla allows users to instantaneously transfer money with a flat fee of $.25. By teaming up, the two could really give the dominant credit card processing companies a run for their money.</p>
<p><!--more--><a href="http://qz.com/7848/heres-the-evidence-that-dwolla-square-the-two-hottest-us-startups-in-payments-are-going-to-get-together-to-defeat-visa-mastercard/">Writes</a> Quartz:</p>
<blockquote><p>Square hasn’t replaced credit cards; it’s merely provided a new way to swipe them.<strong> </strong>That means that merchants are still paying Square 2.75% per transaction, a fee that can’t be tamped down without replacing credit cards altogether....Dwolla charges nothing for transfers less than $10, and a flat fee of $0.25 for everything over that amount. On a $100 purchase, a merchant would save $2.50. For merchants like grocers, who are making only between 1 and 3 percent profit on every sale, that would on average double their margins on a sale.</p>
<p>So: pair an easier way to pay (good for customers) with a cheaper way to transfer money (good for merchants) and you have a winning combination.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dwolla has <a href="https://getsatisfaction.com/dwolla/topics/can_dwolla_integrate_with_square_pos">hinted</a> at this kind of collab before, saying that they are "agnostic" when it comes to how users pay for goods. Square, meanwhile, recently nabbed a massively lucrative <a href="http://betabeat.com/2012/09/starbucks-pitches-in-on-squares-200m-series-d/">partnership</a> with Starbucks. If Square could convince the coffee king to use Dwolla for its money transfers--touting that miraculously low transfer fee--that could mean big business for Dwolla.</p>
<p>"Dwolla's a lot like another mastercard, another visa, another amex, in that it's a payment option," Jordan Lampe, a communications rep for Dwolla, told Betabeat by email. "Square has built an amazingly simple, beautiful way to accept payment options on the behalf of their merchants. Any proposition that provides a customer with real value is a worthy conversation for any company to engage in."</p>
<p>But, as Quartz notes, "Persuading shoppers will be the harder part." Visa and Mastercard are well-known brands that people have come to trust their money with. It will take a tremendous marketing push to convince customers to trust a little-known company with their cash, but it might just be worth it for everyone involved.</p>
<p><em><strong>*<a href="http://betabeat.com/disclosure/">Disclosure</a></strong></em></p>
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