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			<dc:creator>Nitasha Tiku</dc:creator>
				
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_17882" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-full wp-image-17882" title="ttfm" src="http://nyobetabeat.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/ttfm.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="277" /><p class="wp-caption-text">No, not that kind of bear. </p></div></p>
<p>Now that <a href="http://turntable.fm">Turntable.fm</a> courts celebrities as investors, it's fair game for the likes of <em>The Hollywood Reporter, </em>which had an interesting <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/turntablefms-licensing-future-were-trying-239983?">interview with co-founder Seth Goldstein</a> over the weekend. In it, Mr. Goldstein discusses monetization (with engaged users it'll come naturally) and how DCMA-compliant listening makes for a passive experience ("it's primarily read-only").</p>
<p>As an early investor in the taxonomic trailblazers behind <a href="http://delicious.com">Delicious</a>, Mr. Goldstein also had some telling observations about how TTFM users have scrapped traditional genres for a different approach to categorization.<!--more--></p>
<blockquote><p>We also noticed that the conventional notion of [genres] is a relic of a  bygone day. The most interesting rooms on Turntable.fm is the mashup  room, where the only theme that ties people together is the fact that  people have to mash up two songs. There's things like ocean rooms, where  you can play anything you want so long that it has something to do with  an ocean. There was a Hurricane Irene room where one guy played  "Hurricane" by Bob Dylan, and another girl played "Here Comes The Rain  Again." One of my favorites is there's an "orange bear indie room" where  the only caveat is that you have to wear the avatar of the orange bear.  It's interesting to see how people categorize things themselves and  create communities around their own categorization schemes. I was one of  the original investors in a company called Del.i.cious, and the whole  point was that peole would tag things however they wanted to. Whereas  Yahoo would call it "sports" website, the user would tag it a baseball  website or a Red Sox website. So I think we're seeing how powerful it is  when users are given the opportunity to organize their own music.</p></blockquote>
<p>We hope <a href="http://www.betabeat.com/2011/09/12/this-is-what-happens-to-delicious-when-its-not-owned-by-yahoo/">new Delicious owners</a>, YouTube's Steve Chen and Chad Hurley, are taking note. But as the failure for #occupywallst (or #occupywallstreet or #ows) to crack Twitter's trending topics has shown, too many tags <a href="http://www.betabeat.com/2011/09/26/twitter-says-its-not-censoring-occupy-wall-street-people-really-are-talking-more-doritos/">isn't always a good thin</a>g.</p>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_17882" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-full wp-image-17882" title="ttfm" src="http://nyobetabeat.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/ttfm.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="277" /><p class="wp-caption-text">No, not that kind of bear. </p></div></p>
<p>Now that <a href="http://turntable.fm">Turntable.fm</a> courts celebrities as investors, it's fair game for the likes of <em>The Hollywood Reporter, </em>which had an interesting <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/turntablefms-licensing-future-were-trying-239983?">interview with co-founder Seth Goldstein</a> over the weekend. In it, Mr. Goldstein discusses monetization (with engaged users it'll come naturally) and how DCMA-compliant listening makes for a passive experience ("it's primarily read-only").</p>
<p>As an early investor in the taxonomic trailblazers behind <a href="http://delicious.com">Delicious</a>, Mr. Goldstein also had some telling observations about how TTFM users have scrapped traditional genres for a different approach to categorization.<!--more--></p>
<blockquote><p>We also noticed that the conventional notion of [genres] is a relic of a  bygone day. The most interesting rooms on Turntable.fm is the mashup  room, where the only theme that ties people together is the fact that  people have to mash up two songs. There's things like ocean rooms, where  you can play anything you want so long that it has something to do with  an ocean. There was a Hurricane Irene room where one guy played  "Hurricane" by Bob Dylan, and another girl played "Here Comes The Rain  Again." One of my favorites is there's an "orange bear indie room" where  the only caveat is that you have to wear the avatar of the orange bear.  It's interesting to see how people categorize things themselves and  create communities around their own categorization schemes. I was one of  the original investors in a company called Del.i.cious, and the whole  point was that peole would tag things however they wanted to. Whereas  Yahoo would call it "sports" website, the user would tag it a baseball  website or a Red Sox website. So I think we're seeing how powerful it is  when users are given the opportunity to organize their own music.</p></blockquote>
<p>We hope <a href="http://www.betabeat.com/2011/09/12/this-is-what-happens-to-delicious-when-its-not-owned-by-yahoo/">new Delicious owners</a>, YouTube's Steve Chen and Chad Hurley, are taking note. But as the failure for #occupywallst (or #occupywallstreet or #ows) to crack Twitter's trending topics has shown, too many tags <a href="http://www.betabeat.com/2011/09/26/twitter-says-its-not-censoring-occupy-wall-street-people-really-are-talking-more-doritos/">isn't always a good thin</a>g.</p>
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