Talent Crunch

Raiders of the Last Nerd

What unemployment? New York's tech recruiters are on the hunt. Googleplex East, beware.
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Illustration by Oliver Munday

“If I’m not the most well-connected guy in New York, I’m one of them for sure,” Dave Carvajal told The Observer, leaning back into his chair at the Park Avenue South headquarters of Dave Partners, the executive search firm he founded in 2009. It was the Friday before the Fourth of July and Mr. Carvajal, olive-skinned and trim, was already dressed for the long weekend in salmon-color khakis and a snug white shirt.

Mr. Carvajal was discussing the finer points of recruiting developers—a skill suddenly in great demand, as Google, Wall Street and top media companies battle an army of starry-eyed young co-founders for technical talent, raiding a local labor pool better known for its dreamers than its doers.

After all, those mobile apps, data-mining algorithms and high-frequency trading applications aren’t going to build themselves.

“I love it! It’s the age of the recruiter,” Mr. Carvajal said. “In New York City the only thing hotter than tech people are tech recruiters.”

Mr. Carvajal, a type-A optimist who still finds time for a rigorous Ironman training schedule, wasn’t talking just about himself. In September, Foursquare poached Susan Loh, a former lead technical recruiter at Google, away from Yelp to head up its efforts in New York. A month later, Yoonie Kim, a veteran tech recruiter for Meetup, Mozilla, and Google, opened up an office for her own agency, Lab 8 Ventures, in New York. She had to turn down 15 start-up clients last quarter because she was too busy between staffing up Amazon and Gilt Groupe. This March, Rob Dennis traded in a five-year career leading technical recruiting for Bridgewater Associates, a cult-like Connecticut firm New York magazine recently called “the world’s largest and indisputably weirdest hedge fund,” to recruit at Lincoln Square Advisors, an independent midtown i-bank and consultancy. From the Solow Building, upstairs from Brasserie 8½, he now hunts for tech talent for big tech and finance firms as well as start-ups. Mr. Dennis, in turn, raided Facebook’s Palo Alto headquarters to lure Aaron Kirchner away from his position as lead tech recruiter to join him at Lincoln Square. Meanwhile, Mr. Carvajal’s firm filched Sean McDermott from Googleplex East’s recruiting team last month so he could work on beefing up Tumblr’s engineering staff instead.

Indeed, while the rest of the city anxiously watches unemployment hover just below a demoralizing 9 percent and Wall Street braces for more layoffs, developers are complaining about being spammed with too many job offers on LinkedIn. The best recruiters know how to catch an engineer’s attention. Working in their favor is the fact that at the top of the market, salaries for chief technical officers and VPs of engineering are the most competitive they’ve been in years.

For example, one high-profile fashion e-commerce start-up recently attempted to hire a CTO away from its main rival. The desired candidate was offered a $350,000 package ($275,000 base and a $75,000 bonus), 1.5 percent equity and a board-approved $500,000 loan that would allow him to exercise his stock options at his current employer—the “golden handcuffs” keeping him in place—and pay off the considerable income taxes he would incur. (He politely declined.)

“CTOs typically go for like $225K, with $50K bonus and 1 percent equity, but that’s rich for a small start-up,” said Mr. Carvajal, who recruits for large companies like Microsoft and Amazon as well as for New York’s suddenly ubiquitous venture capitalists. Though recruiters report that start-up salaries for engineers rose 20 to 30 percent in the past year and a half, to upwards of $140,000 for a developer with three to five years experience, that still leaves start-ups priced out of top talent in a city where working for a hedge fund can mean bonuses of up to 80 percent on a good year and CTOs command seven figures.

“We came from a place over the last two years where people were going to start-ups for below market [rates],” Mr. Carvajal noted. “People aren’t necessarily going to do that now.” In fact, they’re likely to ask for more equity, especially as the high-flying IPO market has opened up the plausibility of a lucrative exit. The fact that Forbes’s list of the world’s richest billionaires now features three early Facebook employees not named Mark Zuckerberg made a bewitching case for the upside of equity.

Even recruiters themselves are willing to put their ear to the train tracks to hear those ka-ching sounds in the distance. Mr. Dennis mentioned Lincoln Square accepting equity payments from promising start-ups in the same breath that he reminisced fondly over Peter Thiel’s plunking down $500,000 for a 10 percent stake in Facebook. Mr. Carvajal also accepts equity in start-ups, but Lincoln Square plans on doing him one better by launching its own venture capital arm and incubator.

“Investors are giving them money, but these start-ups are just turning it around to get talent. In the early stages of a company, a single superstar hire can mean the difference between success and failure,” added Mr. Dennis, who gives off the same bookish, hmm-how-should-I-explain-this-to-you vibe as his sitcom doppelgänger, Doogie Howser. “It occurred to me, why not just take out the middleman?”

But Lincoln Square is even more ambitious. This fall, Mr. Dennis is beta-testing a college recruiting program that borrows a business model from sports agents. Avoid the campus cattle call and let Mr. Dennis do the leg work. “I’m going to do the job that career services should be doing,” he tells them. In theory, the employers pay Lincoln Square’s fees. Then, when those kids become managers, who do you think they’ll call when they hire their own team?

IF THAT’S WHAT IT TAKES to close a coder, it might explain why tech man-about-town Rex Sorgatz was forced to delete recruiting from the menu of services his company, Kinda Sorta Media, offers start-ups. “It was too difficult finding people,” Mr. Sorgatz told us over beers at a digerati meet-and-greet. “If you want a CTO, you have to go to, like, Tel Aviv.”

Eager to hang onto talented staffers, Google—a company known to aim for the 85th percentile in terms of compensation, to separate the greedy from the truly passionate—has gotten fast and loose with its counter-offers. Out in the Valley, Google reportedly tried to load down employees with stock, worth $3.5 million in one case and $6 million in another, to keep them from jumping ship to Facebook. But even in Manhattan, it’s turning into a numbers game. Mr. Carvajal said he recently had two bids from start-ups for a developer from Google’s $1.8 billion Chelsea outpost who was also weighing another outside offer. “One of the highest was $180,000, and Google offered him $240,000 and the chance to work from Paris, because it was some special project they needed.” He stayed with Google.

Although Googleplex East employs a team of roughly a dozen recruiters, each with a dedicated support staff of “résumé sourcers” hunting for engineers, a source familiar with the company’s hiring process says in the last quarter, the New York office’s efforts resulted in the most rejections ever: 13 Thanks, but no thanks—up from a typical one or two. Although Google is quick to note that this was a record year for hiring, our source paints a more desperate picture: “All someone needs to say is, ‘Oh, I got an offer from a start-up,’ and Google will come back and give you this real generous counteroffer to stay.”

Typically that means something along the lines of a 50 percent raise and a couple thousand shares of restricted stock units, or R.S.U.’s, for a valued employee. Those units work on a four-year vesting schedule, which means employees have to stay to cash in. “They’re giving them out like candy,” said the source.

“Look I’ve got guys at Google who want to leave Google, some top engineers,” Mr. Carvajal said. “But the problem is, you know, they’re sitting on $2.5 million of Google stock. On a cash basis, they could leave, but it’s the equity keeping them there.” That said, Google’s increasingly bureaucratic infrastructure is losing its sheen. Mr. Carvajal says he talked to one of the top developers from Facebook’s Palo Alto headquarters who broke down the decision tree for a typical top engineer on the West Coast. “He said, ‘If you’re lazy, you go to Google; if you want cash, you go to Facebook; if you want cool work, you go to a start-up.’”

The source familiar with Google’s inner workings concurred: “Google is a little stale. It’s almost impossible to get fired.”

For start-ups processing meta-data (or data about data) like Bit.ly, which not only shortens URLs to help users meet the 140 character requirement, but also pulls information from the source page and how it’s shared, the talent pool they want to tap might be closer to Wall Street than Chelsea. Mr. Carvajal says they’re looking for engineers who have experience with “algo trading” at big securities firms or hedge funds building systems for processing massive meta-data. “The problem is the Betaworks guys, the Bit.ly guys, they’re cheap,” he says. “They want the guy to leave his job making $400,000 to $500,000 and do it for equity.”

Jonathan Basker, Betaworks newly-hired “vice president of people” sees it differently. “More and more, engineers are turning away from the financial industry completely (yes, pay-cuts and all) in order to find more meaningful and rewarding work,” he emailed The Observer. “We’re here because it’s good for the soul and we can leave everyday with smiles on our faces and 100 new ideas racing through our brains. Frankly, the type of engineer we like to hire couldn’t possibly be happy in one of those firms, so this doesn’t present much of a problem for us.”

“SO YOU MET DAVE, huh? Was he smiling?” Marc Cenedella, founder of TheLadders, a website that lists only $100K-plus jobs, asked The Observer. Mr. Cenedella and Mr. Carvajal were both pivotal in scaling-up HotJobs before Yahoo bought it for $436 million. (Without admitting any wrongdoing, Mr. Carvajal paid a $32,398 settlement to the S.E.C. on allegations that he bought HotJobs shares in his parents’ name and unloaded them shortly after the sale.) The two also worked together again on TheLadders.

Why, yes, we did notice the permasmile, we told Mr. Cenedella. And why not, he seems to have some tricks up his Ralph Lauren sleeve.

“I like Dave—don’t want to expose his secrets,” said Matt Pavelle, now the new CTO at Moda Operandi, wrote The Observer via gChat. Dave Partners recently secured Mr. Pavelle for the members-only fashion e-commerce company, co-founded by socialite Lauren Santo Domingo. “Let’s call him an excellent communicator,” Mr. Pavelle conceded.

About that sizable network of his, Mr. Carvajal said he built it up over years in the business. “Gilt Groupe is a good example,” he noted, sucking down a Swamp Thing-color smoothie concoction of kale, spinach and green apple. Mr. Carvajal says Gilt founder Kevin Ryan, who was on the board of HotJobs and an early investor in the Ladders, initially asked him to head up talent acquisition for the flash sale site. “I was just having too much fun. But I introduced him early on to some people, including the guy who’s running the Jetsetter business,” said Mr. Carvajal. After letting Dave Partner’s agreement with Gilt expire, “Now half the company at Gilt Groupe is reaching out to us and asking for help,” he said of the notoriously difficult environment for developers, adding, “Now it’s okay to pull people out of there because they’re not a client.” Gilt responded that its attrition rate is “extremely low.”

With developers kvetching about “recruiter fatigue” and turning off their cellphones to avoid calls, it takes a psychological understanding of what geeks want to get them to jump.

Mr. Carvajal views companies as either clients or targets, figuring out which are which by conducting interviews that end up functioning not unlike therapy sessions. “Once [employees understand] that everything we talk about is going to be strictly confidential, then they open up,” he said. “People prioritize their own self-interest over loyalty to the company.”

Mr. Dennis takes a more mathematical approach at Lincoln Square. He’s a few months into a plan to map the country’s top technical talent and how they move through the market in real time. “An example of mapping we’ve done is looking at every Harvard graduate back to 1970—with the caveat that school isn’t always necessarily the best aggregator of top talent,” he said. To find indicators of talent, which he defines as “the raw capability to do difficult things and a track record of having done difficult things,” he sorts data from candidates and employers using various algorithms. He’s even trying to figure out a way to incorporate in cultural influences—the release of Hackers, say, which set off the ascendance of the nerd.

As it turns out, Mr. Dennis himself is among the growing ranks of folks who turned down an offer from a company with a market cap approaching $200 billion. Last year, a source says Google offered to invent a position just for him, head of engineering recruiting strategy. He declined.

-ntiku@observer.com

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Comments

  1. Anonymous says:

    Dave:  call me.

  2. MechaTecha says:

    These guys sound like D-bags.  No one cares about recruiters, but I’m sure they enjoyed being made to look ‘cool’ in this article.  It’s all about the founders and engineers.

    1. Nitasha Tiku says:

      And here I thought it was all about the Benjamins, baby.

    2. Dave Carvajal says:

      Hey MechaTecha – Wow, YOU seem like the really cool one.  Make your Momma proud!

  3. Anonymous says:

    Sorry, but “In New York City the only thing hotter than tech people are tech recruiters.” — really? I don’t think so.

    1. Nitasha Tiku says:

      Hottness might be in the eye of the beholder.

    2. For the record I didn’t say that :)

    3. Howie says:

      They’d like to think that, wouldn’t they?

    4. Dave Carvajal says:

      Hey Kyle – why don’t you swing by my office and see both sides of it?  We get some pretty awesome talent passing through — not many from Camden County College so it would be great to have you in for a chat!

    1. Nitasha Tiku says:

      Something to say to the folks in this article/recruiters in general? Holler at us! http://twitter.com/#!/betabeat/status/96291758786359296

  4. photomajor says:

    Dave is the Partner you want!

    …no one better. 

  5. I wish there were people out there trying to recruit me offering stock and bonuses. I am a university student looking for a job and canexpect one that pays about $8 an hour. 

  6. Steve Tabler says:

    I wish MY phone would ring off the hook from recruiters….instead of bill collectors!  I graduated in 2006, and all anyone courts me for are the bills I accruded getting my degrees.

  7. Jsimpson says:

    I hate Dave Carvajal. He is an idiot.. but talks a big game. I used to work at theladders.
    He was fired and he certainly wasnt a founder of Hotjobs. Keep talking your bs carvajal..

    1. Dave Carvajal says:

      Hey Jsimpson – part of my role was to bring in top talent and another to cut the bottom performers.  You can get better.  Let go of your anger.